Curse

Animate · May 01, 2010, 04:36 AM // 04:36

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Originally Posted by Regulus X

If they tone down Blinding Surge and Blinding Flash a bit, I'll reconsider rolling melee in RA. I'm also seeing a huge influx of casters being used in RA simply because no one wants to be perma-blinded the whole match by a blindbot brainlessly mashing one or two f'ing keys the whole match. That is part the current state of RA from my experiences.

*NOTE: This post is on-topic. Do NOT remove!*

By looking at your avatar and this post, anyone can tell you're a warrior.
Since you're blind, let me enlighten you:

The reason Bsurge and Bflash are so strong in RA, is because decent shut down is a rarity in RA, and because hammer warriors and rangers are OP. I'm sure if you had a half-decent mesmer on your team, he could wipe all those tears off your eyes.
Stop demanding to nerf a balanced skill on the basis of it being too strong in random unbalanced RA teams.
And if you are so good, take dshot on your warrior and shut it down yourself.
I always did this and it always worked. Less crybabying pls.

Regulus X · May 01, 2010, 06:38 AM // 06:38

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Originally Posted by RhanoctJocosa

I'd much rather play against bsurge than hexes tbh.

Hexes aren't that bad, tbh. They can't be spammed nearly as much as B.Surge can, and you can still pressure through them. Hammer warriors can still kd, Axe warriors can still rupt key skills and land bull's, and assassins can still complete their chains through empathy/insidious/faint/and-so-on. You can't do shit with blind on you, however. I'd much rather deal with hexes than blind. All I'm saying is that blinding spells like B.Surge are brainlessly easy to use, it permablinds even with -40% redux, and it nullifies pressure all too well. It also eats away at energy pools of whomever attempts to remove them every 4 seconds. B.Surge, and any spell like it, needs to DIE.

EDA was nerfed, and imho, is easier to counter than B.Surge by all means. I used to take a W/N Coward axe with Strip Enchantment and win against them more often than not. I can strip the B.Surger, but the ele sometimes has GoLE to make up, as well as AoR every 12s.

bungusmaximus · May 01, 2010, 08:45 AM // 08:45

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Originally Posted by Regulus X

I run all physical types, and B.Surge is a faceroll elite that requires a brain the size of a pea to use. So, if you vouch for mindless blindspam, /uninstall and go play some tetris. I'm willing to bet that all you roll in RA is Lame Surge, hence why you're oh so supportive of it, calling it balanced, etc.

Stop being bad and supporting bad play. Say NO to Lame Surge!

Lolol the reason why bsurge is considered easy is that there are no shutdown characters in RA to make ur life miserable. I usually bsurged in korea district, and with a magebane+mes camping you playing bsurge ele becomes a LOT more interesting. Gotta watch the mes the entire time, cancelcast against the ranger, gale his mtouch.

RA is random, and some shitter builds are stronk there, can also try real PvP where you can actually form up teams the way you like it. Like 4-man teams? try AB it's fun lately.

RhanoctJocosa · May 01, 2010, 10:31 AM // 10:31

^ exactly. if bsurge gets to you that much why don't you just roll a dom mes and rps their ass? your melee will thank you. even if you have a poor ping and can't reliably hit pblock and pleak, stripping attunements goes a very long way; the ele won't be able to spam bsurge on recharge giving your wars more chances to kdlock/pressure.

i miss old korean dis

Bobby2 · May 01, 2010, 12:07 PM // 12:07

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Originally Posted by bungusmaximus

Lolol the reason why bsurge is considered easy is that there are no shutdown characters in RA to make ur life miserable. I usually bsurged in korea district, and with a magebane+mes camping you playing bsurge ele becomes a LOT more interesting. Gotta watch the mes the entire time, cancelcast against the ranger, gale his mtouch.

RA is random, and some shitter builds are stronk there, can also try real PvP where you can actually form up teams the way you like it. Like 4-man teams? try AB it's fun lately.

/applauds

Also, DChop that shit

Regulus X · May 01, 2010, 10:41 PM // 22:41

Insisting that all players roll caster just to get over one hill is the reason RA sucks so bad right now. B.Surge only feeds to the whole rupt-botting fiasco, and seeing full out mesmer caster teams is just ridiculous. I can't blame them because nobody wants to deal with B.Surge any longer and have since then rolled nothing but rangers or mesmers for that very reason. It's pretty f'ing lame if you ask me, and B.Surge needs to just DIE already.

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Originally Posted by Bobby2

/applauds

Also, DChop that shit

How, if your f'ing blinded?! And don't tell me "use antidote" or "roll a mesmer" because they're both invalid arguements.

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Originally Posted by bungusmaximus

Lolol the reason why bsurge is considered easy is that there are no shutdown characters in RA to make ur life miserable. I usually bsurged in korea district, and with a magebane+mes camping you playing bsurge ele becomes a LOT more interesting. Gotta watch the mes the entire time, cancelcast against the ranger, gale his mtouch.

RA is random, and some shitter builds are stronk there, can also try real PvP where you can actually form up teams the way you like it. Like 4-man teams? try AB it's fun lately.

All the TA goons moved to RA. Welcome "Misery!". Oh, and you're unskilled if you "usually B.Surged" because Lame Surge takes ZERO skill, and that makes me believe you're just another bad player wanting to make gaming a living hell for all the meleers out there.

Seriously though, isn't the amount of anti-melee around not enough? Holy mother of GAWD! Toning down B.Surge/Flash a little bit wouldn't be the end of the world as we know it. It'd make things a bit more bearable as a physical tbh. Right now, only the really bad players, or really good syncers, are roling melee in this state of RA.

Bobby2 · May 02, 2010, 04:37 AM // 04:37

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Originally Posted by Regulus X

How, if your f'ing blinded?! And don't tell me "use antidote" or "roll a mesmer" because they're both invalid arguements.

A: wait until Blind is about to wear off, Shock, DChop timed 4 seconds after...
tl;dr get lucky

Why would 'use Antidote Sig' be an invalid argument? Optional slots are optional

urania · May 02, 2010, 07:56 AM // 07:56

I can say with guarantee that SoM+plague sending mesmer is twice as lame as any b surge ele you might come up against.
mostly because:
1) plague sending is aoe and for free just like SoM, both of which you can thus fake at will if need be
2) the buggers often carry shame or some other form of shutdown and are hence present a far bigger threat for the monk than a simple bsurge ele does

And as it was said before, it takes one decent mes or r to keep those in check. That, or roll a melandru's resilience boon mo.

Terrible Surgeon · May 02, 2010, 10:03 AM // 10:03

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Originally Posted by lemming

You're going to have to provide a valid argument before you can expect one from everyone else.

LMAO...go look under services on guru here...notice the thread offered by the GEAR leader...that's just the tip of the iceberg dude to gvg exploitation.

bungusmaximus · May 02, 2010, 11:12 AM // 11:12

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Originally Posted by Bobby2

Why would 'use Antidote Sig' be an invalid argument? Optional slots are optional

qft, lol, pig headed melees not taking self cleanup in a RANDOM arena make me wonder who the real idiots are...

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Originally Posted by Regulus X

Toning down B.Surge/Flash a little bit wouldn't be the end of the world as we know it.

Nop, it would just have us get rolled by shittersinways in HA all the time, sounds like fun

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Originally Posted by Regulus X

All the TA goons moved to RA. Welcome "Misery!". Oh, and you're unskilled if you "usually B.Surged" because Lame Surge takes ZERO skill, and that makes me believe you're just another bad player wanting to make gaming a living hell for all the meleers out there.

My main is warrior, so ur point is moot. Bleh I only took a surge to korean because for some realons 75% of the people were already playing warrior or ranger there. Didn't want my team to blow up in < 2 minutes, cos that's what will happen when you DON'T bring melee shutdown, u'll be on your ass for 75% of the matches.

*lemming* · May 02, 2010, 12:06 PM // 12:06

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Originally Posted by Terrible Surgeon

LMAO...go look under services on guru here...notice the thread offered by the GEAR leader...that's just the tip of the iceberg dude to gvg exploitation.

The individual whose post I replied to was apparently under the delusion that the only problem with hero battles was the prevalence of syncing. I'm not sure why you believe that selling guilds is a problem.

To everyone else: I'm going to nuke the thread the next time people get confrontational about bsurge.

RhanoctJocosa · May 02, 2010, 03:16 PM // 15:16

B Surge sucks, water eles are where it's at.

Del · May 02, 2010, 04:19 PM // 16:19

Don't argue with Regulus, several times in several of his "whine about b surge" threads it was explained how to go against b surge, either he's too terrible to pull it off, too hellbent on getting b surge nerfed without actually improving his skills, or just plain trolling, either way it's irrelevant, in any situation, there's no point in arguing with him, he just ignores rational thought.

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Originally Posted by RhanoctJocosa

B Surge sucks, water eles are where it's at.

Truth. hexes are tougher to deal with, and snares + melee hate make a much more valuable teammate than a blind spammer. hell, if water eles in ra became meta, Reg would just whine about snares being OP.

urania · May 02, 2010, 05:02 PM // 17:02

haha, thats very true about water hexes...played a very fun bar in ca (and works in ab and might work in ra too) as sig of illu mes with chilling winds and ice prison - guaranteed to make every melee class cry their eyes out.

Stranger The Ranger · May 02, 2010, 05:08 PM // 17:08

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Originally Posted by RhanoctJocosa

B Surge sucks, water eles are where it's at.

Agreed, as a Warrior, I had more trouble with a (good) water hexer than anything else.

BSure Eles need to grow some balls, if you're gonna run Air Magic anyway, be a man and use Mind Shock :>

AlCapwn · May 02, 2010, 05:52 PM // 17:52

Well I'm not gonna deny, Bsurge is a just a little OP. About the only complaint I know of.

Sankt Hallvard · May 02, 2010, 05:57 PM // 17:57

Blind is a rps gimmick the same way daze is. Why do people rely on such gimmicks in RA where you're bound to come up against the perfect counter at some point?

Add in mels resilience, rtl eles and crit defense sins too. Easy wins, but you lose like a noob when you run up against a 1-skill counter.

bungusmaximus · May 03, 2010, 07:03 AM // 07:03

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Originally Posted by Sankt Hallvard

Add in mels resilience, rtl eles and crit defense sins too. Easy wins, but you lose like a noob when you run up against a 1-skill counter.

Blind isnt the only thing with a one skill counter, lol, every condition pressure gets pretty much owned by 1 midliner with a brain that brings draw/mtouch.

Sankt Hallvard · May 03, 2010, 09:07 AM // 09:07

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Originally Posted by bungusmaximus

Blind isnt the only thing with a one skill counter, lol, every condition pressure gets pretty much owned by 1 midliner with a brain that brings draw/mtouch.

Yet for some reason people chose to bring apply in TA even in the era when ff had a 2 sec recharge.

Animate · May 03, 2010, 11:02 AM // 11:02

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Originally Posted by bungusmaximus

Blind isnt the only thing with a one skill counter, lol, every condition pressure gets pretty much owned by 1 midliner with a brain that brings draw/mtouch.

,olol, a bipped draw/mtouch.....? Sorry, no.
Old 2sec Foul Feast, barely.
Also bsurge does not get owned entirely by draw or mend touch or antidote or plague touch or even FF/Fleshwound.